Shanann had only (ap autopsy) "probable bruising on the anterior subcutaneous neck tissue" sweetbreez 4 yr. ago Like the previous commenter said, LE explained that it had to do with her being buried in the sand vs the oil. I think she was going to do what most of us who suspect our man of cheating would do, see who the server was, and go to the restaurant with a pic of Chris & ask who he was in there with. The autopsy report said that Shanann had a "history of being reported missing and subsequently found unresponsive in obvious state of death in a shallow grave." The cause of death was. Dont mislead people into believing there should be feces in the location of a murder. She felt that he is going out to pour oil on the bodies to dispose of them. Her husband spoke to Chris and he was not shedding a tear about his missing family.. Shanann Watts' husband, Chris Watts allegedly confesses to murder The Colorado Bureau of Investigation reported that three-year-old Celeste Watts and four-year-old Bella Watts are also dead along with mom Shanann. Utter Rubbish! Shannan did not have any marks on her face indicative of a punch, slap, or anything at all. Its typical that children be smothered as opposed to stabbed etc. How does pretending to be asleep and cowardice align with murder? i did not read many commentsso maybe others have notice thisCeces autopsys did not reveal her oesophasagus( maybe wrong spelling )surgery?this can be a reason why CW tried to keep all of them health documentation avoid been public recorded?becausethere may have been some exageration about it ?on the other sideinsurance policies would have not give them money so maybe this is why the medical bills so heavy?there is something that i dont understand? Theres just too much, including motive, he wanted a life with Nicole with no disturbances. So Chris Watts said she barely got into bed, and soshe barely got into bed? Then I think he went into the girls rooms. Or perhaps he left when the sun was coming up because thats when he usually left for work. I think she was then taken, with her children, out of the rear of the property for concealment. Chris Watts advised that blankets and stuffed animals were left by the sheet which was near Shananns grave. Once Shanann got in bed and settled to sleep, he then got on her and, like a snake, squeezed the life out of his prey. The lack of a broken hyoid bone (called thyroid bone in the autopsy?) If Chris *hadnt* killed them, would he have gone to so much trouble to hide the bodies? They are The People Of The Lie. (Scott Peck). Everything you say can & has been disputed. 3. As far as OCD I dont believe she had it This shows how little insight you have into this case, and into who Shanan was in particular. I am very new to this case, only a couple of months ago, end of November 2020 to be precise. I think despite her bravado, she had insecurities just like everyone else, with both herself, and her roles as wife and mother AND someone working in an MLM. Straight up facts. While some muscles spontaneously contract after death and though all muscles eventually tighten into rigor mortis others are loosening their grip entirely. So she wasnt in rigor at the home and was likely just starting to show signs while he was burrying her at the site. If youre not OCD, it doesnt mean Shanann wasnt. 3. Shed been drinking?? I did hear shananns mom say let them in her daughters house. I know, Im a survivor of strangulation. Sounds like a good theory except that Bella did fight for her life as the coroner explained by the hole in her frenulum, the biting of her tongue & insides of her cheeks. You see any documents with that diagnosis? Not sure if it is true, but I heard that the GF (Nicole) and his parents are both doing book deals! That alone speaks volumes how they were approaching their relationship. Subdued and buried alive perhaps? I approached an expert to get his take on it, and was a little disappointed by his findings: https://crimerocket.com/2018/12/17/thomas-molletts-forensic-report-on-shanann-watts-post-mortem-blood-alcohol-level/. Chris worked at a petroleum manufacturing company. Thanks! Everyone did think I was the nutty one by what he said cause he was a great guy to them. I cannot get over what he did. Perhaps it is safer that the majority public dont know the facts. She seemed to be in pajamas which indicates she got into bed, which sickly matches up with his barely got into bed remark, The sheets were stripped because they probably got pulled off anyway during the act. I wondered what became of the gas can. He pushes her off CeCe and strangles her with both hands ( he demonstrates ) Just a thought. Shanann was strangled and the children were smothered. Shannan's cause of death was strangulation while an autopsy found crude oil in Bella and Celeste's throats, stomach and lungs. Its more likely the complete opposite. 2. The body is that of a well-developed, well-nourished although decomposing Caucasian female whose appearance is generally I doubt shed just leave her phone and stuff downstairs like that. Do you think her phone ended up where it was because thats how and where it left her hand? This sick bastard should have done everyone a favor and took his own life. Then again she was dressed for bed. Terrifying to think he could have put them in the tanks still alive but incapacitated. The ground was visible disturbed. Late stage of pregnant. Based on the history provided and the autopsy findings, the cause of death is asphyxiation due to smothering. You can pooh-pooh OCD if its not you, but OCD especially for someone with a chronic disease tends to be quite significant. Heres another: https://www.timeslive.co.za/news/south-africa/2017-11-23-susan-rohde-sustained-too-many-injuries-to-hang-herself-pathologist/. He didnt attempt to revive the children or call for help. When it was revealed yesterday that the children had been smothered, I assumed a pillow was used, especially since it would cover their faces and provide emotional distance for Chris while murdering his own children. He is very thorough, very professional, analyses and peels back all the layers. I do believe that she may have been the one who smothered the children because she was so controlling, according to friends and family, that she didnt want another woman around her kids. I know plenty of women who wear their bras to sleep, myself included. Once youre already unconscious from sleep & then start losing air from throttling it would make you very disoriented & hard to come to fully conscious state & fight back before losing total consciousness again. The womans home was spotless & there was a place for everything & everything was labeled! This is from the transcript of the Larry King Live show covering Scott Petersons conviction in the death of his pregnant wife Lacey thats Dr. Henry Lee, a forensic scientist: KING: If there were smothering, would there have been evidence? I think he would have come up with a better plan as to where he would bury them. You know theres plenty of that right? I would like to read the discovery how do I find it? Could be so because Shanann had no defensive wounds and he said she didnt fight. Did you mention in your book that Shannan thought her marriage was wonderful and things started changing around the time your Hero Chris Watts started having an affair? Pee and Poo And the fact that theyd had a bankruptcy in 2015 apparently hadnt helped her wise up at all. Once into the oil she gulped in the toxic mix of oil, water and sludge and died as a result of this as well as being unconscious. Christopher was sentenced to life in pri There is no soul in his eyes. The lie detector test question focused solely on her, didnt even mention the kids. I was writing in a passion. In the first half of this demo, you have them face to face when the attack occurs. If Chris had not had the affair, he would not have killed his family! I slept in my bras with all four of my pregnancies. He said Shanann said she was going to a friends house with their two kids. Unless youd take that as he was going on the run with them, which I highly doubt. So the agent says what about strangling? Nickole Atkinson was first to sound the alarm; she told police she dropped Shannan off and Shannon was 15 weeks pregnant and not feeling well. Was Shanann ever clinically diagnosed with OCD by a physician or a psychiatrist? That sounds very very snarky. Bellas stomach contained 75 milliliters of green-black fluid, the report states, which was most likely from the oil tank she was placed inside. That discussion included stating she couldnt afford to live in Colorado as a single mom, AND she would have to immediately pull the girls out of school to save money. And, as you point out in one of your replies to anothers comment about the oil in her body, there was no oil in her lungs, in her stomach yes, in her lungs no. I also think the MLM biz attracts people that are lost, and need to be directed and consumed by something. Also, the fact that he did not want her to come to Colorado with his dad so that maybe she would not be questioned? Or do you believe his lies, that she harmed the kids and then he did same to her? How did Shanann Watts die? Id recite a few examples from case law but I dont think youre really here to discuss anything. Taking it off makes the breasts throb & feel more painful. Also zero evidence that she was in bed. Everyone on here who has mentioned ocd has an opinion formed by stereotypes theyve heard. What is going on?? Maybe some ppl just can only take so much. Meacham [who knew Shanann from school] described Shanaan as OCD in the way the household operated. Lastly and not related to your book, I continuously read people stating that the only bruises on Shananns body were the on the right side of her neck. It appeared to be an addiction by this point it was all she wanted to do. Regarding oil in the stomach, just a thought, but wasnt Bella face up and CeCe face down when removed from the tanks? Info released has stated she had some suitcases still packed, in her bedroom, from the SC trip, and there were other things (like her purses being messy) that just keeps chipping away at true, almost disabling sort of OCD tendencies. Is there any way you can send it to my email please. The trauma dogs noted hot spots in the basement. The LeVel MLM was a huge contributing factor in this familys financial collapse. He has to be asked if he EVER went to look at Bella and see what condition she was in. And his mistress tells him she wants to be the one to have his first boy prior to the murders and surprise after finding out she is having a boy , she is now dead. Chris Watts isnt my hero. When youre pregnant, your chest grows significantly and pretty rapidly- its completely understandable that she might have been wearing one to bed. I actually have been turned upside down by this murder, and through watching over 42 hours of video, have grown to love and admire Shannan! Bella Watts Autospy Report Like you, I believe the children were sedated, and possibly Shanann as well. He said it took minutes, the police reports say. Triggers related to cleanliness and symptoms related to washing make up only a small part of the range Esophagus: .. And I doubt this person is a doctor who can just diagnose ppl he doesnt know either. He just didnt want another baby. In the new clip, the cold-hearted killer is wearing t-shirt, shorts and flip flops as officers secure. Like you, I was suspicious about the DAs assessment. First of all- the digestive tract is long. Said it was part of the decomposition process. @Nickvdl IMO I think he strangled her from behind and on their bed. Chris is dead inside. The autopsy results aren't available, but the funeral and grave site suggest that Niko's remains were either removed, destroyed or buried with his mother. I consider it strange to have them there (in preschool) FT at their age, given the business she was inseems like it could have been done around an at home schedule for the girls, IMO.. The Watts family killings and the financial devastation, infidelity, and what appears on the videos as a mindless neglect of the children overlay all these sad accounts. Mechanical compression with blood vessels in the neck (as in a Stranglehold) causes a reduction in oxygenation of the brain, leading to cerebral hypoxia/ischaemia, anaerobic metabolism, and acidaemia/acidosis (similar to the effects of cardiac arrest on the brain (Longstreth 2001). Also, he usually goes to the office in the morning and then goes out to the sites but the night before he called and told a coworker he was going to the site. It was all a complete lie. Do not make it more complex than it need be please. My husband is 62, weighs 190 lb. 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