If I sling shot the slide it works fine but I can't remember any of my other Glocks having problems getting them to go back into battery while riding the slide(when dry firing). I've tried three different brand new ones.I can also add that I am 99% sure the problem is in the slide. The Barbie dolls are mine. I do not recommend using a dremel on that. A forum community dedicated to glock owners and enthusiasts. By Everything is right in the world of Glock again. Clear editor. I was not really paying attention to what he did. Paste as plain text instead, Kinda weird. Wondering if you ever got your issues resolved? January 3, 2004 in Glock. Your link has been automatically embedded. *Must have a registered ARFCOM account to win. I have a brand new Gen4 Glock 17, which the only "upgrade" I have done is change the connector to a Taran Tactical one. I only switched because my Glock trigger could only set off certain primers due to the lightness of the springs I needed to get it to work. From personal experience I recommend a factory connector. I plan on speaking to Glock tomorrow now that I have a bit of an idea. If it were me I would use a calipers to take some measurements of your OEM slide rail slots from front to back versus your new Suarez slide front to back,I suspect you will discover differences. 3. make sure the plunger is properly installed, take the side apart and push down on the plunger. The last thing you want is to damage it so it's inoperable. I bought the G19 new, and ive never torn the slide down. The first suggestion comes directly from the troubleshooting section of the Armorer's manual. If the slide goes into battery with this test, you've got other issues. Could be too long and hitting the extractor bar/spring thingy and not letting the extractor get up over the case rim. The trigger bar and connector are polished but no metal reshaped or removed. Hope you were able to get yours sorted out. Subscribe to our monthly Newsletter to receive firearm news, product discounts from your favorite Industry Partners, and more. All Rights Reserved. I check the recoil spring from time to time the first way Vincent mentioned. The slide stops with the top bullet in the magazine stuck against the feed ramp. Any update on this? What ammo? None of the modifications you mentioned are in the slide unless you changer out the plunger. Come join the discussion about optics, hunting, gunsmithing, styles, reviews, accessories, classifieds, and more! I'm wondering if it could be a defective recoil spring? On a side note, this gun did not want to feed my semiwadcutters at all, and also pinched my pinky a lot. Usually, what the OP is describing is a problem somewhere else in the gun. "Laws that forbid the carrying of armsdisarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimesSuch laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man." I would pull and hold the trigger, rack the slide and it wouldn't return completely to battery until I released some tension on the trigger. I bought a LW threaded barrel direct from Gemtech last year for my suppressor. releasing the trigger allows it to go the rest of the way home. sounds to me like the Timney is your problem, not the Glock. Sorry about that. 3 Pull the slide back fully, then slowly ride the slide back into battery position, keeping the trigger depressed the whole time. I am shooting my handloads right now it is 124 but will go back to 115 once this batch runs out. I mostly shoot 147gr Federal American Eagle. In my opinion, I'd suggest the factory rounds (or load a hotter load) and find out if it solves the problem. A slight adjustment to the crimping die corrected the problem. I agree with comments a few others have already made that Timney triggers are not necessarily a simple drop in. The problem is once I pull the trigger, and the slide racks either from firing or manually, it won't return fully to battery while the trigger is held back. With the slide off, there was visible movement in the timney part when i manipulated the trigger. Give your new G19 some good lube on the rails, tabs and the barrel before shooting it again. JavaScript is disabled. There are MANY other options for Glock trigger mods and all of them have been in use far longer than the Timney. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. You can get calipers from Harbor freight, they are not the best but have a large read out display and I find them as accurate as Frankfort Arsenal digital calipers,you will use them for many gun related projects. I found my recoil springs drops a little as well. My glock 19 doesn't go back into battery until I reset the trigger. ago I'm not missing a pin I just put the wrong one in, and that's honestly what I thought, I'll try to fix it and see if it helps 1 Reply Everything else seems to be working fine. It's always good to close the loop when a problem is discussed. Thanks for all the feedback everyone. Anyways, I noticed when messing around with it that the slide is not going all the way back into battery when I ride the slide forward while holding the trigger back. Your link has been automatically embedded. I have Timney triggers in two Glock 17 Gen 4 MOS pistols that I run in USPSA CO. Will get some pics next time at the range. can your extractor move freely? In addition, if you just had the slide (and / or frame) refinished, there is an excellent chance you will need to shoot some rounds to get the coatings thinned out in the right spots. Yes i am. If I let It slam shut there is no problem. My participation level isnt at the point where a dedicated backup gun makes sense so i dont have another gen 5 to compare, this might be the thing that gets me to try a sig though. Limp wristing one handed wasn't the issue as it happened with both hands first. Turns out I reinstalled the takedown lever backwards. I'd take it to a gunsmith or a local shop with glock experience before it gets made worse. I'm kinda an apartment dweller with more Barbie dolls than tools (they are my daughters. Glocks are pretty simple really. Pasted as rich text. that should fix it for sure, I assume you are using the "U" shaped washer as well ? I have never really seen the need for an "armorer" when working with my Glocks. Im thinking the mag springs are hanging up on something. If you aren't getting drag marks on the underneath side of the slide from it, I would leave it be, other than giving it and the bar itself a good polishing. This did the trick. One new winner* is announced every week! I put about 600 through it with the extensions with no issues. Display as a link instead, - Bren. releasing the trigger allows it to go the rest of the way home. In the dozen or so that I have built and helped build, I have never had a need to 'file' down a trigger bar safety tab. AR15.Com reserves the right to overwrite or replace any affiliate, commercial, or monetizable links, posted by users, with our own. It's only had failures to go to battery when I milked the slide. NWGlocker Registered Joined Aug 12, 2010 If you see light off-center strikes it may well be. Its light but mushy. Then again, I would caution folks not to expect any new trigger or trigger part is going to be a simple drop in item. I must thank everyone for the replies, you all are the best. BrianEnos.com I couldnt be happier. I am still useing the stock recoil spring and striker spring. Nice pull and crisp break. If not HELP PLEASE! All Rights Reserved. this is normal for a glock as they are not designed to have the slide closed slowly like this. I wonder if it doesn't have enough pressure to hold itself in place. Im planning on a press as my next significant purchase. I read it gave a much nicer trigger pull. 20+ is for 10mm. My brand new Glock 19 Gen4 does the exact thing. Pull out a round that chokes the pistol in the manner you are describing. This, in all cases with any new firearm, is a fundamental error. 3 Pull the slide back fully, then slowly ride the slide back into battery position, keeping the trigger depressed the whole time. It only hangs up if I hold the trigger back as if shooting off the reset. I can't figure out how the trigger would cause that kind of malfunction anyway, but it's the only change I've made before the malfunction started. Something is WRONG, either modifications, misassembled, or maintenance. thats one of my fears. With Timney I can set off small rifle that I could not with my Glock trigger. Have you tried a different firing pin spring? and Mrs. America turn in your guns' - I would have!". Im curious to see what the hype is about but getting rid of my Glocks isnt a consideration. Powered by Invision Community. The simple thing seems to be that something did not go back together right. What load you firing? Im a little ahead of you on this path. I would like to take the glock armors course but not LE or GSSF might just have to change that some day. Maybe ne messed something up in the slide. That is like test driving your car with the engine off then complaining of poor acceleration. I can swap the sli. I'm assuming the recoil spring isn't the issue since it's only been fired one time. Is this RSA going to $hit already? Never an issue with limp wristing so far. If the firing pin did not drop then chances are that is the issue. You should seriously look at the takedown lever. I ride the reset BTW - if I didnt, it would be fine. If that doesn't fix it, take the slide apart in the rear (you can find a YT video of how to take the back plate off) and make sure the springs on the firing pin, extractor and firing pin safety are in their correct orientation and not deformed. The slide goes into battery, but the primer hits look off. I will say that I just set up a new Zev Glock 17 with RMR, and my usual loads ran the gun just fine, but (without checking) the Zev slide seems lighter than the OEM Glock one it replaced. But after doing some research, I shouldn't be surprised that a guy who got arrested for ripping off his LEO department, and even got his wife arrested for it too, would hier less than professional crew. Another dumb question is are you intimately familiar with taking the gun part and putting it back together? I had this with my first gen P80. I ordered a pierce +0 grip extension that should take care of the pinch and I'll only use round nose in it from now on. Everything seemed fine at a field strip level just to oil. I should have added this in the OP. Feel the mouth of the case for burrs, etc.. I haven't had a chance to try a stock magazine yet. I'm pretty sure it actually WAS only fired once before because the copper grease was still very apparent when I field stripped it. I noticed that even after one dry-fire, the recoil spring assembly drops down a little bit when I take the slide off the frame. "If I could have banned them all - 'Mr. If he lets go of the trigger at that point, the slide goes forward completely. Agree with Danzig but I actually suspect it may have more to do with the slide, if your Suarez slide has been caracoated or duracoated there is the possibility of some build up in the slide rail slots or on the bottom of the slide in the area where the connector rides causing your problem. Grant me victory over my foes and those that wish to harm to me and mine. AR15.Com reserves the right to overwrite or replace any affiliate, commercial, or monetizable links, posted by users, with our own. I noticed while shooting that sometimes the slide will not return back to battery 100%. We also have Glock related articles like Tools Used . Let not my last thought be If only I had my gun; and Lord if today is truly the day that You call me home, let me die in a pile of empty brass. Thank you! I can't have more than 1500-2000 rounds through this pistol. I could measure how it was off. Sign up for the ARFCOM weekly newsletter and be entered to win a free ARFCOM membership. I am not LE but I was able to take the course just had to drive a hour to where they were having it. February 21, 2022 in Glock. I've got a 3rd gen G19 that I use as a suppressor host. Or you can order them for like 2-3 bucks offline from Midway or Brownells. Technical Factory Pistols Glock failure to go into battery after installing Timney Trigger failure to go into battery after installing Timney Trigger By Nick29 February 21, 2022 in Glock Share Followers 2 Reply to this topic Start new topic Nick29 Posted February 21, 2022 Nick29 Members 10 Gender:Male Location:San Antonio, TX When you purchase through links on our site, we may earn an affiliate commission, which supports our community. The second came from the Instructor I took the course from. before the timney Ive been using a glockstore black yikes connector and Overwatch Precision trigger. If so swap slides and eliminate the slide being the issue. have you considered maybe tossing the Timney in the trash and going back to the trigger youve used for the past 11,000 rounds and using that? Pasted as rich text. are you certain that everything is installed properly? Did not have any problems before I had this milled. This is a brand new firearm and before you fired even one round down range you took it apart and modified it thus you have no baseline performence to know what the firearm was doing before you "improved" it. Have you tried the field test for the RSA? Yes, the Glock has been altered from stock. Glock 36's historically dislike certain ammo's, you just need to find the ammo it likes. You cannot paste images directly. I think the mag springs might have been pretty tight too, 'cause mine seemed to want to hang on the first couple of rounds out of the mag. My Glock 21SF threaded barrel sucked for the first 100-200 rounds fired, but once it wore in it has been very good. JavaScript is disabled. So let's make sure we understand this situation. I have not stripped the slide but I'm sure I could figure it out if the issue is there. Riding the slide is not recommended so not letting the slide run forward untouched should make it OK, IMO. It runs fine when shooting but it you ease the slide forward it stops and does not go into battery unless the trigger is moved forward. Now I admit I am not sure if this is happening when i take the slide off, but I am guessing not. Can also try downloading the magazine by one round. The problem was a Ghost firing pin safely spring. Just wanted to point out that you can limp wrist with both hands on the gun and if everything is stock like you said, and you truly believe it has only been fired once, I default to user error. I gave it a little more oil than normal and seems to be getting better. While dryfiring; with trigger depressed, when I pull the slide backwards about half way to reset it, the side won't go into battery. I bought a used (only shot one time) Gen 3 Glock 36. Advise requested, a question about requiring the FEDERAL 4473 form, SB 1 and SB 858 Committee vote Friday at 9 AM, Old Racist Gun Laws Enter Modern-Day Legal Battles, New Gun Giveaway! When you are normally shooting, your trigger is still pulled back when the slide returns. Paste as plain text instead, so, not a G20 but nearly all G17/19 I built or had the opportunity to help had the part that sticks up on the trigger assembly that pushes on the firing pin safety too high. The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo. I'll do a detail strip soon and see if I find anything out of the ordinary. Unlike aftermarket the factory connectors are true drop in and usually dont need adjustments. I knew it was wrong cause I have a factory G17 gen 3. Have you tried shooting it? I stripped the entire frame and can't seem to find the issue. One new winner* is announced every week! https://www.glockstore.com/Glock-Armorers-Half-Slide-Cover-Plate, AR15 Optics decision/dilemma. A bit off the Timney topic, but you might try a Lone Wolf connector with the Overwatch trigger. How much did you need to take off? I noticed this after a cleaning. first off, your slide internals are not installed correctly, the metal should be showing on your depressor plunger and not the rubber and spring and it looks like your missing a pin? By From hunters and military members, to competition shooters and general firearm enthusiasts, we welcome anyone who values and respects the way of the firearm. A forum community dedicated to Glock firearm owners and enthusiasts. I can't have more than 1500-2000 rounds through this pistol. Shoot the crap out of it. 1. I knew what it felt like from a second 17 I own, so I knew that was the route I wanted to go. I had the luxury of multiple Glocks to fall back on, though. I agree, but Ive pretty much ruled out the recoil spring, and it seems crazy that four extensions and springs from henning and Dawson would all have the same malfunction. Once I put the stock one back in no problems. Is there something specific i should look at on the mags? Have you tried it with the factory barrel? I just replaced my G26 recoil spring. I have used them in several Glocks and found them to give a light pull while also giving a crisper break and feel. I haven't fired it yet, but all of the dry functions now work as well as the recoil spring test!!! I have 3 of them and two of the three needed extensive adjustments to the connector and trigger bar cross bar to reset properly and consistently drop the striker. No lube should be needed on RSA. with the gun completely empty and the factory connector installed I can still get it to FTRTB by holding it vertically and riding the slide home with the trigger depressed. 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